The Hassle of Hair
The Hassle of Hair
Faceless: The Art Villians Creative Rebellion
Unmask the enigma, Faceless, an artist who defies norms and redefines boundaries. From heart-stopping graffiti escapades to navigating the tumultuous fashion and gun industries, prepare to step into a life that's anything but ordinary. Faceless unveils his creative process, the struggles of identity in the creative industry, and how his daring approach to life led to a signature style and brand that's uniquely his own.
Gripping tales of adrenaline-fueled adventures, a daring escape from a citizen patrol, and a constant dance with danger make up a slice of Faceless's intriguing life. He doesn't just live life on the edge; he dances on it. His straight-edge lifestyle, belief in the inevitability of success, and a lack of regard for danger paint an inspiring picture of a man who lives life fearlessly. We also delve into his journey through the fashion and gun industries, a path wrought with disrespect, admiration, and an ultimate drive to inspire the next generation.
Faceless's journey isn't just about defying norms and living on the edge. It's also about storytelling, the importance of anonymity, and the freedom that comes with it. His mask is more than just his brand; it's his tool for control and a symbol of his fight for creative freedom. As we dive deeper into his story, we explore the challenges of maintaining anonymity in the digital age, the reality of cancellation culture, and how Faceless turns his unconventional approach to life into an advantage. This episode is a celebration of adrenaline, risk, personal beliefs, and the relentless pursuit of individuality. Strap in and prepare for an unforgettable ride with Faceless.
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Welcome to an exciting journey beyond the ordinary. You know we've all been raised that quintessential American dream Go to college, snag a degree, navicosie nine to five, secure a house, raise a family and sail smoothly into retirement. It's the blueprint for success etched into our minds through media, family talks and school lessons. But what if I told you there's a different path, a path less traveled? I'm your host, jesse Diaz, and in this podcast we dive deep into stories that challenge the norm, stories that awaken the dreamer within. We'll explore how individuals are breaking away from convention, pursuing their passions and crafting a life that's uniquely their own. As I delved into the world of podcasts and listened to voices that dared to chase their dreams, I found myself drawn to their stories. These stories made me question the conventional narrative that success is combined to a checklist, and so this podcast was born, a platform to showcase those who are carving out their own path and living life on their own terms.
Speaker 1:Our first episode features an artist who thrives on controversy, an enigma known as faceless, often referred to as the art villain. Now, you might not see eye to eye with this unconventional figure Heck, you might not even warm up to him. But here's the thing faceless is unapologetically living life on his own canvas, defying norms and inspiring us to embrace our passions. So fasten your seatbelts and get ready for a ride beyond your wildest dreams. Join me as we peel back the layers, engage in thought-provoking conversations and explore what it truly means to live life less ordinary. This is Press the Flesh, where we press the boundaries, embrace the tangible and celebrate the pursuit of individuality. Whether you're intrigued, fascinated or simply curious, I guarantee this episode will leave you pondering the power of creating your own path. Welcome Press the Flesh. Enjoy the episode.
Speaker 1:I'm here with faceless. Like this is. This is a. It's crazy because you have a pretty big phone. That guy, I just I was like, ah, maybe I should reach out to him, like he, like I'm a different demographic, like I'm like a family guy, I'm not really into the shit that you're like, into like, and I just see this guy that's that's doing crazy shit out in the desert and I'm like, well, fuck, I don't know if he's gonna respond to me. Dude, you responded to me in like minutes.
Speaker 2:Well, the funny thing is I used to get approached a lot, yeah, and I think I kind of I didn't feel like I was ready yet to get to go out there and let people record me. And for the last year I've kind of been ready and I think, because of all the controversies and everything that I've done, no one has hit me up. You're the first guy that's hit me up in like six months to do I do collabs, like I just did the the anti-state collab, but you're the first person that hit me up and I've been waiting. I'm like next person that hits me up, I'm doing it. You know what I mean. So I think because of all the the tunnel rat, the art villain, the bad influencer, the you know the controversial skits that I'm doing, all the probably the murder allegations People don't want to work with me anymore.
Speaker 1:So the murder allegations.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know if you caught that, but I was implicated in the murder. The girls, the four girls in Idaho.
Speaker 2:They like the internet implicated me in the murder of those four girls with that guy, brian Christopher Coburger, I think. What was that? It was like Idaho, I think, yeah, it was like Idaho. So it was kind of a meme at first. But then red picked it up and they were like who's this guy? And they thought, cause they saw my videos and I probably didn't help by by playing into it and I acted like I was a Washington state university alumni and I knew the guy and it just blew up. It's like thousands of people thought I, like, was fleeing Idaho to go to California to to get away from the implications and shit.
Speaker 1:So but you just like stirring shit up. Yeah, that's what you do. Yeah, Right, Like and like. Do you want to get into that Like?
Speaker 2:yeah, that's a I would love to get into that. That's kind of how I got into. That's how I got the name art villain. We can get into how faceless began, but to kind of fast forward a little bit when I was already faceless and I was already doing my art villain stuff, when, when Biden got in, it can botch the Afghanistan pullout.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you remember, but there was grown men pushing women and children out of the way to get on to, to climb onto the wing and the wheel hubs of planes at the Kabul airport. Do you remember that? Yes, the plane was flying up to the air and people were falling off the planes and it would became like some weird humanitarian issue where, like they're so afraid of the country, the of ISIS, that they're trying to escape. It's like I see grown men pushing women and children out of the way to get out of the country cause they didn't want to fight Right and we can be honest, biden botched that pullout. But what I did that same day because I thought it was abhorrent seeing these guys dealing this is I went home and I drew a design and we can throw it up on. I can send you the file, but it was called the. It said Kabul skydiving club and it was like a really cool retro 80s design and it had a plane and it had people like flying off, falling off of the plane.
Speaker 2:And I gave the rights to that to a Instagram user named crimes man and I let him put it all up on a bunch of D pop like drop shipping websites that same night and do he made from what I heard he made thousands of dollars, people selling them and it was automated, those automated drop shipping websites, right yeah, and I got so much hate for it People, this is so disgusting. And then copycat started copying that design and selling it on other websites and I think it was the Washington post or the Washington reporter or something wrote about how someone is selling these disgusting, you know, designs, these disgraceful designs of people falling off planes at Kabul airport and making fun of the Afghanistan pullout. And that's where that was like my first big controversy was. I was the originator of that design, you know, and that was like people were so mad. This is distasteful, this is disgusting.
Speaker 1:But you had no connection to it, because you gave the rights to.
Speaker 2:I'm the one who drew it though the one who designed it, but yeah, I didn't like they never shouted my name out, but my Instagram was blowing up. People were pissed about it Because I was the guy who originally posted it and everyone was screenshotting it and reposting it and that was like my first big. There probably was a few other ones, but that was one of my big controversies was people really pissed about how distasteful that design was. But that was why you know, that's kind of why I do it now Is I want to obviously bring awareness to things, but I do enjoy stirring shit up with my artwork.
Speaker 1:And like meeting you, you organize everything, Like you're very organized. You flash it out Like there's, there's, there's, it's not chaotic. When I, when I was driving over here, I was like man, this could be chaos.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a little bit more methodical than people.
Speaker 1:Like, where did this come from? Like where did faceless come from? Obviously it was. Was it planned out? Was it something that was just born out of nowhere? Where did faceless start?
Speaker 2:I think it was a long time coming. I started doing, I would say, consistent artwork when I was 15. I started doing graffiti, I started doing graphic design. I really looked up to brands that were on Fairfax in Los Angeles back before Supreme was sell out and you know, when it was blowing up Stussy classic was one, keith Huff-Nagel, obey was another one. But then it started getting, you know, really really liberal. But I was looking up to those guys and I started doing graffiti and kind of really diving into the underground art world and I think art for me has been an uphill battle.
Speaker 2:It's always something that's come naturally and I've always had an eye for it, but it's always been an uphill battle from even when I started. When I initially went into art class at I think that was freshman year of high school I had this teacher who wanted to skip over all of the technicals and the basics of shading. I went into art class because I wanted to become technical, I wanted to become better, and I had a teacher who some fucking liberal art student teacher who glorified graffiti and he skipped over all the stuff that I was there to learn, to teach me stuff that I was already doing outside of high school on the daily. You know that was like my first introduction and that's actually why I failed art in high school, was he? We just butted head so much. And I remember getting into a fight with him initially where I was like, dude, I'm not here doing this shit every day outside of school, you're just glorifying it. You're not living this actual lifestyle, you just want to glorify it for the glory of being a street artist. Banksy, I'm not there actually doing it in the aqueduct and on government buildings and stuff. That was like my first uphill battle. I would say I oh well, at the end of the year after I failed because I just kept wanting to learn the practicals of art and the basics and I just didn't play his little game of wanting to do his graffiti project. I Was jumping around with him and I was like, hey, so I'm like I'm into art to or art honors. And he looked at me and he goes you're never gonna be an artist. I was like, alright, okay, okay, and that's the one that. That really stuck with me and over the next four years I just drew all the time. Yeah, so the next four years I Worked hard on pencil art. I started painting. I'm still doing graffiti, constantly Getting in crazy shit, running away from cops.
Speaker 2:We can go into that. You know running way, for I ran away from a police helicopter my boxers when I was like 17, I think. So take us through that, take us okay. Um yeah, friends doing graffiti, we're doing like graffiti.
Speaker 2:One of the big things is like kind of scouts, like scouting spots and looking for stuff. So I had a bunch of different groups of friends that I go around with kind of scout out spots and there's an abandoned neighborhood near my house and I Well, like let's go look. It's like it like track homes that they built on un Unstructured foundation so they couldn't actually finish the building project, but it was these brand new homes, they completely furnished brand new homes. So like let's go break into them and like look in what we see, you know, and so we're breaking into these houses. It's actually kind of funny because I remember one of my buddies climbs into a house. He's like dude, these look like really like they got lights on, there's furniture in all of them and I knew that they were abandoned. It was an abandoned housing project. But my buddy climbs into the window and he goes oh, my god, there's, there's people in here and I'm like, no, there's not. He's like dude, I swear. And I look in there and it's mannequins sitting on the freaking couches and he's like he's, you know, he's freaking out, he's fucking mannequins dog.
Speaker 2:So we go into, we go across the street and we're breaking into the house and that same buddy was like that same buddy. He was like he was like dude, someone just ran up the stairs. I was like, bro, stop it. Like these are empty houses. He's like, I swear, someone just wrapped the stairs. I was like, no, dude, you know, now he's messing with me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we're trying to break this door open like shit. We're just breaking an entry to this board is breaking doors open. Going inside and as I am entering I see I hear a Glass shattering above me and I go and look and a foot comes straight out of the top window and there's like a garage that that was connected to in front of it. And I look out and I'm looking at this guy kicks a foot straight out of the window and he climbs out of this window and he's trying. He's looking down at us, he's trying to run what the only thing I've been able to deduce it to is I think he thought out he's a homeless guy. He looks raggedy as fuck, these homeless dude, and he thinks we're gonna go in there and hurt him. So he's trying to escape up the top.
Speaker 2:As we're coming in, I watch this dude slip, fall on his back and then roll off the garage top of the garage it's time right on the ground in front of us and we're like oh shit, and just start running. So we're running back to our truck. We get to the truck and it's not police, but it's the citizen patrol trucks and those guys that drive the city citizen patrol and they got the light on us. He's like I don't, I don't know if this is allowed, but he aimed a gun in a flashlight at us. I don't know if it allowed to aim a gun at you, but this guy's like Straight up and I'm like hands up, right, because I'm 16, 17, small around there. I'm like, oh shit, my buddy on my left side, I look at him and he looks at me and he's getting and the guys like get down. And so my buddy starts getting down on his knees and in my head I know like I'm not getting down on my knees already. I know because we're break. We just broke an ender in like four different homes. I don't know what's going on, but I'm not getting arrested. I look over at my other buddies and we all at the same it was like mine, like we all Read each other's minds. We knew what we're gonna do. We were just boom run, just straight running to the right, and there's this big wall and back then I was able to like get over any wall that was twice my height. As long as I can get my Fingertips on it, I'm over that wall. That's where I'm doing graffiti.
Speaker 2:I skipped a very important part of the story. The reason I was in my bosses is because I grew up poor. Sometimes we'd have some stuff, but most of the time we didn't have a lot, and this was one of the first times in my young adult life that I bought brand new pants for myself Brand new pants. I didn't know we were gonna go scouting or breaking into houses. I don't want to mess these jeans up. I spent $60. Jeans back in like 2013 was crazy expensive, like I, especially that I think I was like. Actually I was like 2011. I'm you know what I mean. I was like somewhere around 2011. So that was crazy expensive. So I left them in the truck and Then we started doing so. I was like, oh, just where are my boxers? Like they were shorts right. So I'm in my boxers and Flash forward.
Speaker 2:We're running, jumping over fences. It was like Ferris Bueller's days all day off, where he's trying to get back to His house. I'm running through people yards. I can hear that cop trying to like chasing of the citizen patrol chasing right after us and you know we're running through, like barreling through Playground equipment, like jumping over people like clothes lines. It was like cliche, it was almost like a. It was like crazy. I'm like jumping over people's picket fences and shit run through this neighborhood of Jamestown too. We're into their boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. All my friends. It was like coordinated, because we were super into breaking into high schools, running through tunnels, breaking into houses, and so I was like super athletic at this time.
Speaker 2:It was one. I was really skinny, so I was able to just like float over fences and shit just float over them and we get to a park and we're talking about it, talking about what we got to do, and my friend on my left side he had followed us. So we're all there, we all ran away and the friend that was on my left side he it was his truck, that the guy, the citizen patrol, was parked next to you. So I have to go back to my truck, dude. I'm like, yeah, I guess you do. He's like you gotta come back with me. I'm like hell, no, that's your truck, dog, I'm not going back with you. Why do we all have to go down? That doesn't make sense to me. I just go get your truck and tell them that I don't know like tell them that you parked there, you were on a walk, like it was those, that we had nothing to do with you. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And so one of my other buddies decided to go with him. We start. I took my, my friend. I'm like we're gonna go, we're gonna walk home. It's about six miles home. We're gonna walk home, start walking home.
Speaker 2:And one of the stretches I can see all the way down there's more cop cars there. Now I can see it like that. You can see the lights in the distance is like a good you know. Two-thirds of a mile away walking on. Look, I'm like damn, they're pulling off the full force. That's crazy and I can see a helicopter in the distance and I was joking with my buddy, a slap him like, hey, they got the helicopter looking for us too.
Speaker 2:I shit you not right as I said that I see the spotlight turn. It starts coming towards us and I was like, oh Shit, wait a minute. And it starts coming closer and closer and I'm like we got to go. So we're running, we're running, running. I see a front yard. I jump underneath this dude's truck, climb under the truck and we see the helicopter fly by and I'm like looking underneath, because I'm like they have fleer. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I'm climbing underneath trucks, looking up underneath, and it goes, uh, it goes right to this uh which I'm clear might even penetrate through truck. I'm not too sure, but I'm climbing underneath this dude's truck, I'm looking and it goes right, and I can see the spotlight circling, that abandoned housing truck. It's like, oh Shit, dude, I see I hear more sirens, more sirens. Get there, dude. It was like swat showed up. And so we start running. And we're running and that helicopter starts Opening its path of search, bigger and bigger, and there's points where we're I'm hiding under people's patios and I see the freaking thing. Fucking Come in the spotlight. Yeah, looking for us. I'm like that has to be for us, like there's no Coincidence there. That's looking for us. So we're running. We've run about six miles where we're climbing underneath trust.
Speaker 2:I'm covered in dirt, like trying to get away from this thing because I don't know what the hell is happening. I it's actually kind of funny. I get home, I walk in through the door. We're all covered in dirt. We're dead. We're like tired. Come inside. My dad's like he could hear the helicopter. He's like, oh, it's almost as if they're looking for you and I'm like, yeah, that's funny, oh, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:I don't know, they're looking for something. And my later on I told my dad that story and he's like I remember that night they were looking for you. That's fucked up. But uh, what happened to my friend is they walked back to do that. Dude was so scared of cops, he was so terrified. He walked back to the truck. He they fucking tackle him like, get him like, tackle him, rough him up, put him up against the truck. And they're like he's all shaking. And they're like are you on any drugs? And he's like yes. And my buddy looks at him. He's like you're a fucking idiot. I'm like what? And the light right in his face, like mag light right in his face. What drugs are you on early? Because he goes show me your tongue and he goes.
Speaker 2:My friend, I heard this from my buddy who was there to work for where told me the stories. The cop fucking like opens, pulls his chin down, let me see your tongue. A poise. He has his tongue out. He goes what drugs are you on? He goes oh, I've taken ibuprofen, a motrin, like, just like he goes. Pop goes, uh, I've, uh, I've, I've done, I've done those, I've done those before and they don't make me act like the way you're fucking acting, and so they lock them out. They fucking put him a handcuffs, put him in the back, impound the truck, and that's the only part I was pit. The funny thing is my homie who owned the truck told me, if he's like a, if I, if I don't meet up with you guys later and my mom calls you, tell her that I just dropped you off, no matter what she calls me, at like 11 at night and I'm like he just dropped me off. What I didn't know is that this fool was in jail, so straight up in jail, and Truck was impounded. Do I had to wait so long to get my fucking pants back? I was so mad, dude.
Speaker 2:They also found inside that truck a bunch of like random shit that we had taken. Like we took an antenna from From one of the schools that we broke into. I don't know why. I thought it'd be cool If we spray-pated a captain America shield on it. Yeah, exactly, just like fucking. You know, like I, I we had a bunch of random shit like like a surveillance camera and shit like we'd taken. We never stole. We never stole like anything. We were in, actually, inside a school one day and we know, and we walked into the photography room and they had expensive ass DSLRs. We never took anything like that. It was always like weird off the wall, like oh, that's sick Dude. It's like the old, like surveillance camera. You know, it's the old, that antenna looks like a shield. So we're just like menace, the society type shit. You know, and I don't know what happened to the homeless guy, but I watched that full smack straight on the ground and he was not breathing, dude, like straight from a fucking story high, just boom.
Speaker 1:It's. It's crazy because, like you said, your friends scared of cops, like, like there's being scared of cops, like Like being scared of cops, like I said, just you see a cop walking by and you're scared of them. Yeah, but you're talking about you guys are what 1617. Yeah, you guys are 17 and you have a helicopter. Yeah, case that cops chasing you and in his head I feel like this is a normal response to all that happening, but in your head that's like, like what's what's going on your head when you're underneath the car and you're seeing the Bible?
Speaker 2:I went, I go blank, like my tunnel story. I go blank, dude, and I'm just like I have a goal and I'm gonna accomplish it. That's all it is. I just turned into a different person. I guess I just go Completely blank and don't register any of that. Yeah, but you're right, there was like a whole Totally skipped it.
Speaker 2:The reason that there was so much cop cars and so much resources being used Is that citizen patrol fucker Lied and called the police and said that there was like 12 of us and we were all there stealing copper. That's what he said. And so they all came out full force. Yeah, because it was a. It was a developed housing project that had been abandoned and they had a lot of. I guess there was a lot of money invested in it and they they do regular patrols around there and he told, he told them there was like 12 of us and we're all. That's what I guess we're on the charges, the From my buddy, like that's what the officer reported on the right or the investigation report or whatever. That's what it said was like.
Speaker 2:Well, whatever, you know, he listed 12 people and that we were stealing copper. That's what he said, and maybe that was his excuse to like aim a gun at us or use whatever Jurisdiction that he didn't have to chase after us or whatever the fuck he did. You know, maybe he wanted it. He was to make him look better and that's why he made such a big fuss or something you know. But the citizen patrol dudes are like they're way more gung-ho than a rookie cop there. You know, they want to catch the bad guys, they want to clean up the streets, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like that, that, that not being able to feel fear like you, like you talking right now, it's like you're not even. You're not even in. It sounds like you weren't even like Fearful of what was gonna happen to you. You're like let me just escape.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I was young I think maybe part of it was young and like I have a weird disposition to believe that I'm Anointed and I'm protected and that everything's gonna work out. I always believe that that everything's gonna work out in my favor and for the most part it has Pretty much everything's worked out in my favor, like there's I can't tell you pretty any stories about my downfall. I really like Maybe a young heartbreak or something like that, but pretty much when I put my mind to it, everything's worked out. And it's crazy because the older I get, the more that feeling gets strong, like the stronger it gets. So I'm like you know my guardian angels are working on double time, like they've saved me from so much. So I think that's one of the biggest things.
Speaker 2:Even my brother, the he rides the motorcycles, he's when I ride with him, and now my sister in law too. They tell me. They're like, like you're a good rider, but you scare us. Could I ask them? I was like hey, are you worried for my brother? Because he's he writes crazy. And she's like I'm worried for you. I'm like why are you worried for me? What the hell? Like that's offensive. She's like you have like no regard for anything. She's like you. She's like you are extremely overconfident. What she says something about me being extremely overconfident, having no regard, and I'm just like driving a riding too crazy, I guess, and I was like, damn, that's like. I feel like I'm riding perfectly fine. I feel like I'm doing good, great rider and you're not.
Speaker 1:You're not. And you, you from hearing you say that you don't drink, you don't do any drugs, straight edge, yeah, pretty straight edge, and like that's pretty wild to know that you're like, you're not. You don't have this insane outlook on life, like because you're on drugs or you're drunk all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I was. I was talking to someone recently, but you can't sorry, do you gamble a? Lot. No, no, I don't gamble at all. I did one time. It was on a boat on the way to Porto Bayarta and I put $40 in and it went and I was like this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 2:We're in international waters and I pull the thing down and it was like and I was like, pull it down again. It was like nothing. I was like wait, did I just lose $40? And the girl with me was like yeah, that's gambling. I was like I don't want to do this again. So that's one of my downfall stories losing 40 bucks on a boat. But it's like this was not fun at all and so I never, never, gambled again. That was it.
Speaker 1:You're, you're, you're a adrenaline junkie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it. I think the adrenaline junkie probably has to do with Growing up doing BJJ. I think that's part of it. Was that adrenaline when you get you do a tournament. You know that, being a young kid, your tournament you're so nervous and your stomach's twisting and then you do. Okay, you're like that was amazing, right, even if you get smashed. It was like that was still pretty cool growing up doing that and then wrestling in high school.
Speaker 2:Straight out of high school my first job was working at a snowboard resort and we're about 40 minutes away from it and I'd go up there and I think the first year I didn't touch a snowboard. So yeah, I don't want to do that shit, it's not for me, because I broke my arm on a skateboard when I was a kid. I have a bunch of crazy stories so I was like I was trying to stay away from the action sports and in the second year I was like let me try to get on, start having fun. And then it eventually the spiral. Then to me, every day before work I was boarding.
Speaker 2:Every day after work I was boarding and it was like I think it messed up my adrenaline receptors because it was so much adrenaline every single time. I'd hit those jumps so hard dude, I fly as high as I could and it was every actually got out of control. I got a hairline fracture behind my eyeball before work one day. Like it was actually actually got out of control. I had to get pulled down in the ski lift or the the Rescue guys had to pull me, pull me down in that lift. But I think it messed up because after that my adrenaline wasn't hasn't been right ever since then, because it was every day for Every day of the season for years and I don't know if it ever came back to do like. I think that kind of helped Make me an adrenaline junkie. You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean, yeah, your life experience, like you want life experiences, like that's what I noticed with myself, like I'm, I Like I thought after fighting I'm like okay, what's next? And I'm going out and I'm doing Podcasts and like this is fun, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm like looking for the next thing and I might be a high Hi, it might be a DD to like with me, I think, I think for sort of touch on that with two things people, a lot of people that scribe me as larger than life, and Most of my friends are like how do you always get yourself into these experiences? A lot of people, I think there's people at a skeptical no one's brought it up to me, but there's probably some people that are skeptical out there and I know I've had friends that are like, why don't I ever have any interesting stories like you? And I think it's because they're just not open to it. I'm the type of guy that'll like, like, like I said, I'll match with someone on Tinder and just for the experience of it, like, even if there's been times where I thought I was gonna, I was there's like there's no way I'm going to get robbed. Right now I'm not going to get robbed like I'm. So I have my my p238 on me and I didn't my pocket and I'm just like on my way to this really cute girls house at like 1 am. Like I'm getting robbed. Right now I'm gonna get robbed, but there's gonna be a great story, you know, I show up there, pretty girl comes out and like, I'm guess I'm not getting robbed. You know, it's like, either way it's, I'm gonna come out on top as long as I'm not dead. I'm always kind of just open to anything, you know. I mean my friends like, oh, let's light ourselves on fire, jump in a pool, let's freaking do it like that's gonna be a cool sort of I get hurt, it's gonna be a great story. You know, all these, like I said, the hairline fracture behind my eyeball Love that story. You know, I'm just running away from the cops. Even if I did get arrested out. Still, I knew it would like later on in life I'd be like, yeah, look back on that fondly. You know, I Think it's more just being open to it.
Speaker 2:And then the add thing most people can't believe that I do the photography, I do the graphic design, I do everything. But it's because I have to balance everything, because when I get bored of design I trade it with photography. When I get bored with photography, I go back to design, or I'll go back to videography, and I'm just constantly bouncing through every single one. Just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And it's. If I just had one, I'd go insane, I'd go absolutely insane the designs of my foundation, but I keep like jumping and kind of shifting and moving. I want to drop gasoline sent to their freshers. I'll do those this week. I want to do this type of video. I'll do that next week. I'm never bored, I'm always entertained, you know. So that's my, that's why I do it, and I feel like faceless is bringing all that together.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. It's a catalyst. It brings everything into one. Take me to that first day. You decided to put on the ski mask and never show your face again.
Speaker 2:It's a good one Trying to think of the first day, so I wouldn't say it's an actual first day. I would say when I started out designing, I made a page that would. It was just Exhibiting my artwork. I never showed my face, it was just exhibiting my artwork. And then eventually I think, I went viral on tumblr. The one day I woke up and I'd like 800,000 reblogs on tumblr and it blew my stuff up. I got really well known. This was before faceless and I really had a set career in design, in fashion, and I had looked up to I had looked up to fashion shows like I had looked up to brands like the hundreds, bobby, hundreds Like I, like I said obey, shepherd fairy. I looked up to these brands and eventually I kind of wanted to get to a point where I was there with them and I Wanted some recognition and so I started doing the fashion shows. I started doing trade shows. I started getting really big. I think I had it my. My first brand that started had over 15,000 followers.
Speaker 2:I was getting very creative with my design work and I, by the time I had gotten to where I dreamed of, since I was much younger. I think I got there when I was like about 21, 22, maybe even 23. But by the time I got there, the climate of everything had changed so much that I was fed up, and what I mean by that is I finally get to the stomping grounds of all of the artists and brands that I had looked up to when I was a kid and I found out it was almost a don't meet your heroes moment, where meritocracy had been completely killed and it was who was the most politically correct and the least offensive and the most agreeable. And this was about, I think, like 2018, 2017, something like that. I got there and my design had evolved. I draw all of my own tattoos. You can see my work. I have my own signature style. It's inspired by a lot of it's kind of a blend of all of my inspirations and experiences.
Speaker 2:And I get there and I find out that people don't care if you're a good designer. They don't care if you're a good artist. They want to know if you're explicitly trans-friendly, if you're explicitly urban, if you're, you know if you're going to be agreeable to, where they can kind of blend you into their own little idea, bleed your brand dry and then kick it to the curb and me growing up fighting, riding motorcycles, shooting guns, doing what I do. I don't like that. You know what I mean. That was like my first initial like this is it's probably going to work for me, you know, and around the same time, I happened to be in a lawsuit with a really big company that had stolen work from my page. I actually worked that had gone viral on Tumblr. They stole it from me and I walk into Izumi's and I see it in Izumi's. So it's like these people are living the life that I wish I could live, but they don't want me. You know, they want to take my work and they want to take things that I could bring to the table, but they don't want me.
Speaker 2:And this was around the time where people started brands started being really politically like if you voted for Trump or if you like guns, then don't buy our stuff. I think that should personally do Like I really do take that shit personally, where it's like you look up to, you look up to a brand, an artist for, since you're 13 years old, and then he puts a big post about how, if you believe in the border wall and you think that everyone should be able to own an AR15, then you're not one of my fucking fans. Don't ever, don't, ever fucking buy any of my shit ever again. And I was like I rarely bought stuff. I wasn't really a consumer, but I supported them hardcore. I was a huge fan of theirs. I'm like, okay, I'll just go do my own thing and so everything. Sorry.
Speaker 1:What is it about that that hits you personally?
Speaker 2:I think I don't know if it was because I was much younger, maybe I fell into the parasocial relationship with an artist. I think it was at one point I kind of hoped that I could meet these people and be able to do a collaboration or something with them, because I think that my art is good enough to be able to get there. I do think that I'm I have the capability to be able to blow up and do a collaboration with some of these people someday. And then I found out I don't even want to shake this motherfucker's hand how could I share something that I find so sacred, or like a? How can I share, like an industry that I find so sacred, with someone that I, if I met, would probably fucking slap in the face? You know what I mean. Like, they just made like and I think it just turned my world upside down. I thought these guys were cool. I thought they were punk rock. I thought they didn't, you know, I thought they raged against the machine, but it turned out they were just all for the machine, it's all. And, if you want, something, that really blew my mind and I'd met a manufacturer at this show, at this trade show, who actually did all the manufacturing for, for the BLM donation funds, basically. So the gist of it is he explained to me this guy's laughing he's like some Greek dude wearing like Hollister and gold chains and shit. And he was like dude, blm is my biggest money maker, bro. I was like what, this time you got to keep in mind I'm not faceless yet, I'm just some guy who has some strong political opinions that I keep to myself. So I'm like, okay, what are you talking about? He thinks I'm one of them. He thinks I'm with him, bro, dude, and we're at this club because there was an after party. We're at this club and this guy's telling me this whole thing about how, dude, so a brand comes to me and they said they want to do a BLM donation or like a.
Speaker 2:Basically, we're doing BLM shirts with our brand name on it and we're going to donate all of the proceeds to BLM, right, or any sort of like activist company or activist corporation. What the fuck are they called Limited, the what's the word for them? Not LLC, non-profit, non-profits, like donations, non-profits, all that stuff. They're going to donate all the proceeds to them. He tells me that when they do that, they mark up the shirt as if it costs $18 to produce. He looks at me straight in the face and he goes you know what I mean? Both of them know it don't cost $18 to produce a shirt. I go yeah, so what are you getting at? He goes well, it costs us about $4.20 to make a shirt, if we're really putting the bells and whistles on it. He goes between that $4.25 or whatever into that $18, that's where my money maker is and I make 50% of that and the brand makes the other 50%.
Speaker 2:And I was like so you are helping sow the seeds of racial like, of racial infighting and rioting and like hate for the fellow American through fashion, all for profit. And I was like dude, I'm just like. Like what do you mean? I didn't even have a mask on. I didn't even have a mask on. I was like dude, I'm good, walked away from him. But now days I probably fucking get up and I probably slap him and do like dude, you're a fucking bitch, you know, walk away. Like fuck you, dog. I was just like I'm good, bro, I don't want what you're fucking selling. And I think maybe I was just so disappointed I didn't even have any more fighting. This has all been a lie. It's all been a lie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're looking behind the curtain and you're like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:Peek behind the curtain of the fashion industry and it was mind-blowing. Not only that, the whole time I was there, knuckles was with me. He's on my podcast. He's a mogul. He's like a millionaire motorcycle writer. He's laughing because he helped me get there. He helped me set up. He paid my way there. We got invited but we had to pay for a booth and a spot. The whole time he's laughing. He's like just watch until we what do you mean? He goes when you go to a big fashion show and no one shakes your hand, no one's looking at you in the eye, no one's treating you with respect, they don't care.
Speaker 2:And I was an actual retailer with a promising future, an actual brand, and it was almost like the. Well, I was a retailer, I was an actual brand with a promising future. The retailers and the wholesalers came up and tried to treat me like shit. And I'm like fuck. They're looking at my shirts. What is this made out of? What is this? This isn't cotton. This is 6040. And I'm like get the fuck out of here, dude. That's a fucking next level CVC with barrel, tapered shoulders. It's a streetwear shirt. It looks cool on people, but they're picking apart everything, treating you like shit. Flash Ward Knuckles is like, just wait till we get to shit. This shows a quarter of what that is. Do I get to shit in a few months? This is my first time ever going I get there and the first night of shit. I'm just some desert reps, these people. I have millionaire company owners that are shaking my hand and playing pool with me and oh, you're cool, bro, like laughing with me. We're having drinks together Well, not me, but everybody in the room's having drinks and you know I'm playing Pong with one owner of one company who's a millionaire and I'm also playing pool at the same time with another company, some guy who makes slides, right. And it kind of changed my whole outlook on the fashion versus the gun industry. I was like dude, these are millionaires that have more money than anyone in that building and they're shaking my hand and treating me with respect. And that's when Faceless was created. Because of the fact that I've been in the gun industry for a while, I didn't touch on it. But people heard in the fashion industry that I sell guns and pretty much what I do in the gun industry and they blackballed me. They didn't like it. They're so against it Once they found out that we were in the gun industry, it was done Like the brand was dead on arrival as far as it came, with any sort of retailers getting into zoomies or tillies or any of those packs on any of that stuff.
Speaker 2:A few months later I go to a shot show and all these guys are treating me with respect, talking to me about graphic design, about the future of my company, and I was like dude, this is it. I want to make stuff for these people. I want to make things. I want to be here. And then I started getting a little bit more introspective and I wanted to be the Bobby hundreds or the Mike giant or the you know the Stussy of the newer generation coming up. I wanted them to look to me, but I don't want them, when we hit a certain age, for them to, for their walls to be flipped upside down with me. You know what I mean. I don't want them to get to a certain age.
Speaker 2:I know I'm very politically like expressive now, but I could get a like I really could like talk to. I could just talk to people. I'm so far not left or right that there's actually people on the left that follow me, as weird as it is. I know I say bad words that aren't allowed. You know what I mean. I know I say things, as you know, for the shock value humor, but I'm so, I would say I'm so anarchist that I'm almost like like I'm not. I'm on the other side of the spectrum to where I would say I'm a communist, but I'm so far out there that almost none of it, none of it, affects me. I don't care. You know what I mean. I don't really play by their rule. They're they're paradigm rules. I guess I should say so.
Speaker 2:I want to be that guy for those kids that are going up that are looking at me, that you know, want them to look at me like man. I'd love to, I'd love to chill a faceless. He's inspiring, he's this, you know he's that. And I don't want them to get to a certain point to where they find out like, oh damn, faceless has been part of this machine the whole time. I don't want that. So that's kind of my goal is to that's.
Speaker 2:When I put the mask on, I really started going full force into it. It was like I want to be that for somebody and I think I've executed it already. But I think I can execute it on a much more grand scale. You know what I mean. I think there has been people that have hit me. I'm like man, you've been inspiring, like you've been. I think there's different avenues that you can go down, and I just decided I'm not going to be in any retail stores, I'm going to sell online. I have a private server that's housed by some guy in Tennessee. No one can ever shut me down. My website's like a completely separate thing.
Speaker 1:You're. Basically, that's your why. That's the why of faceless is to not be part of the machine, because every culture, every community that I've been a part of, there's always that dark side. Where you look behind the curtain it's like, oh, these motherfuckers are just in it for the money, they're in it, for a clout, they're in it. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I can completely agree with you on there. It's the same thing. I was in the fashion industry To keep the camaraderie of BJJ in my life. I got into weightlifting. I became a personal trainer because of my own personal experiences. I wanted to help people lose weight and gain muscle.
Speaker 2:Same thing, dude, all these people that are buying their way into a movement. Buying their way steroids being a fake. Someone does steroids. They become a guru on fitness because they look good. I have a degree in kinesiology and nutrition. These guys are coming up to me and telling me shit that just makes absolutely no sense about turning. Oh, you know, you can actually transform fat in a muscle. No, you can't. They're two completely different things. They don't understand the energy pathways. They don't get. You know what I mean. They're buying their way into it. Let's talk about the gun industry. All these dudes spending $7,000 on a Leopold scope Unless you're doing competition where the freakin like centimeter, the 1,000th of a centimeter, matters. You don't need that much. Most of the dudes that are buying them, most of the dudes that are buying nods that are getting kitted out, they're not doing competitions in that way. They're trying to buy their way into a movement Motorcycles, fashion. You know what I mean? It's all the same shit. It's all people doing that.
Speaker 1:We get to your why. What's the goal of this? What is it that you want to do? How far do you want to grow this? What do you see yourself in five years?
Speaker 2:My goal has been to show the best and worst sides of me without ever actually showing my face. The best and worst sides of me like the polar opposites of the stuff that I'm into, the things that, and doing it in a very artistic and creative way. Perception, kind of like controlling my media and trying to become a master of it. I thought it'd be funny for a while if, like what if I became an anti-influencer influencer and I never took off the mask and it's like how the hell is that guy sponsored by In and Out or some shit? I don't think that's ever going to happen now, but for a while I thought that'd be pretty funny where it's like you know, I'm in some commercial and just everyone kind of gets the joke. They're like they give them kind of gets it. They're like that's faceless. You know, but I do, I've done some stuff like that. I want to do some stuff like that.
Speaker 2:My whole goal is to just grow, have other people tell their stories. I want to have a studio like an actual committed commercial studio that I live in, that I can do my screen printing, my design I want. Freedom is what I want If I want to buy a like a mail truck and convert it into like an armored Mad Max vehicle and paint it like. I want to be able to do that, you know, and with that, unfortunately, comes money, but I want. The biggest hurdle for me is not being controlled by money and not letting money control my creative you know. So I'm tweaking things to where I can be sustainable in that way, where I don't have to. I don't have to go to some some board meeting and then go like, ooh, that was a little too racy. Maybe you can tone it down a little bit. You know what I mean. I just want complete creative freedom and that's, whether you know, that's. That's just building, like I already said, just building the foundation and getting myself to that point, being able to have complete control over it.
Speaker 1:And you talk about that freedom. Bring me, take me to your podcast. Like your podcast idea about having people tell these crazy stories but they never have to show their face. I just explained it, but you go ahead and explain what your podcast is about.
Speaker 2:Well, growing up in this desert you come along people. That it's funny because I think people think I'm the exception when I'm really not the exception. People think that for there's a lot of people that have moved here and they're like man, that guy, faceless, is larger than life. I know for as many like normal people there are. There's, just there's, there's a lot of facelesses that are out there. There really is.
Speaker 2:I go to house parties and this guy's telling me this crazy story. That's like it's unbelievable. But you know he didn't make it up I've. I go to biker meets, I ride my Harley to a rally and I meet this guy who was an ex bank robber. He's telling me and these are all desert dudes, these are all crazy desert people that were in the desert. You either you know the success. You either like become successful, you get creative with your success, or you become a drug addict. You know what I mean. Like it's. There's no in between here. It's either you move away, you go to the college, you know you do something like that, but if you stay here you only have those choices and usually that breeds crazy stories. Crazy things happen. I think this place is a little bit more of an exception versus other places. It's almost like area 51 because it's stumble upon some strangers and freaks types of things.
Speaker 2:But you know, like I met this guy telling me this crazy story about how he escaped from a Mexican prison when he was 16 years old, telling me like it's a normal story. And the funny thing is I was agreeing with him like it's a normal story, because I have crazy ones too. But the people watching this talk were like what the hell? Like what is going on? What are you talking about, dude? You moved cocaine in and out of the United States and got stopped before the border and locked into a Mexican prison for a year and escaped. Like that's insane. And I thought about it and I'm like hey, would you do a podcast, you know, and tell this? He goes no, I'd never tell anyone this story, I'd never go on YouTube and tell this. And I was like what if you wear a mask the whole time? And he's like dude, that sounds awesome.
Speaker 2:I think every I think for the most part everyone has at least one story that they would love to tell to a wide audience. I think here we get more people that have a lot more stories that they want to tell. But I just opened my horizons completely by guaranteeing them their anonymity. They could wear a mask the whole time. You put a mask on somebody and they'll do a crazy dance in front of the camera versus. They would never do that in their wildest dreams Without the mask.
Speaker 2:So for me, the way the mask got started if I'm being completely honest, the way I got started with the mask was I wanted my anonymity. I thought it'd be really cool and I've kind of executed it in a way where if I got really well known, I could just take the mask off and nobody would know who I am, so I could just live a normal life. I have done that in some like fan meetup situations where along sleep and no one knew who I was the whole time. No one guessed it. But the second thing that I thought was really cool have you ever heard about why teddy bears were and toys back in the days were actually made without any sort of facial expressions, why they were always neutral? It's because they wanted the children playing with them to project their emotions onto that teddy bear or that toy, and I thought that would be kind of.
Speaker 2:I wanted to see if that would translate to this and help me connect with my viewers in a much different light than if I just went on and showed my face. And, to be quite honest, I think I've been successful at it. I think people can relate with me in a different way when I'm telling my stories, because they're not looking at like the person behind the mask they're trying to get into, they're projecting themselves into the story and that is why I also make my guess where the mask. I think people watch the stories and like whoa, like man, what would I do if I was locked in the Mexican prison? I think they do that more so with me. I mean, it's all hypothesis, it's all a cute idea I have, but from the reviews I've gotten, from people messaging me telling me that they some of my stories like have saved their lives because they were majorly depressed and stuff, it's like I think it works.
Speaker 1:You're three episodes in right.
Speaker 2:I'm working on my third episode of my podcast, but on my YouTube I have a lot of like my YouTube, my Instagram. I've told a good amount of my stories, my stories without a guest, so I'm working on my third podcast right now.
Speaker 1:With another guest, right? Yes, yeah, it's. The idea is crazy, it's awesome, it's unique, it's like I'm listening to it. Just the fact that you're able to that person's able to just to tell this story, knowing that they showed their face probably getting some deep shit, so I think it makes it even that much better.
Speaker 2:And the cool thing about it is is now people are coming out of the woodwork and I have street cred. They know that I'm a fucking down ass fool. I do crazy shit and, above all else, I care about discretion. And they come up, I'll be, I'll be out somewhere, and somewhere where I'm a little bit more well known, certain places and I've had people come up to me and they go Yo, are you faceless? I'll see them pointing at me from across the room and they'll be like pointing at see my tattoos and shit, and they go Yo, are you faceless? Yeah, I'm faceless. Dude, let me tell you where the bodies are hidden.
Speaker 1:And I'm like.
Speaker 2:Oh, and I have these guys who are spilling beans on crimes they've never been caught for, and I'm like your book for September, you know what I mean Like you're worked down, so and it's stuff that I I know can't. It can't possibly be like you know, you can't make this shit up. So I'm starting to get this name where people want to come on and they're like man, I've been wanting to tell this story but I just, you know, I just don't have the avenue for it. I want a memoir about my life because I've lived this crazy life. I don't want these people to die without being able to tell their story.
Speaker 1:You think there's a limit like to the craziness? I don't want there to be.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. I'll sign an NDA. I've signed plenty of NDAs. Like I'll make them sign NDAs. I will do whatever we got to do. Man, like I don't think there's a limit. I think I have to maneuver in certain ways where I can't be implicated.
Speaker 2:A lot of these stories that I've heard is shit that happened in like the 80s and 90s. And if I'll be, you know, be honest, I, the guys who've came up and told me stuff, never even told me their names. You know, I don't know their names. So I'm like cool, like maybe I'll have you on, you know, like we'll figure it out. It's a mouth off. You know, here's my email. Maybe we could do that, you know. So I want to try to keep it. And when I'm talking about, I'm not talking about serial killers, I'm talking about dudes who were caught up in like some crazy, like flying a Cessna plane and you know like crashing it and cartel comes out and one of their friends gets taken, type shit. You know like weird, crazy drug runner, like 80s oozes and crazy stuff. So it's like that's the stuff that I like, man.
Speaker 1:You're getting deep into the humanity, what we are and who we are as people. Yeah, and like it gets fogged out or it gets all messed up when people start bringing politics into it and they start bringing what's right and what's wrong, Because they're just fucking people. I think the stories are fucking awesome.
Speaker 2:Isn't that a great evolution of Zero Sleep? Because initially I started off with compilation videos. I just started off making compilation videos of real life instances of people defending themselves with firearms and I put some really cool music behind it to make it a little bit more commercialized and cool, looking like XXX, tintacion and Biggie Tupac, just crazy like remixes of songs and people. As fucked up as it sounds it like commercialized, like real life instances. But I knew that was the only way to get in front of people and some of my videos blew up. I had one video that was like I had a Facebook one Zero Sleep Facebook and it was like a video would pop up, start getting hundreds of thousands of views. They take it down. Another video I'd post another one hundreds of thousands of views they take it down. But those people still saw that and was like, oh, that was kind of.
Speaker 2:I grew up watching Live League. Is that you know that meme where you're like me at the dinner table at eight years old after watching someone getting beheaded that type of shit and I was like, let me try to adapt that. But it's an evolution of what I've already been doing. It's an evolution deeper, like you said, into the humanity of it, into like real life instances of how shit can get real real quick. You know, and just like even that story that you know, that story of me running away from the cops if we're being quite honest, I could have been arrested and I could have like seriously been charged with. It could have ruined my life like they could have been like breaking an entering. You know how much you've now record like you're done. You know, because I was 17 and around that age I don't know if they're charging me as an adult it could have been really serious and that escalated quick. Things happen like that all the time. They escalate really quickly. You know, thinking you're just doing something normal and then boom, so everything your life's changed.
Speaker 1:So you're a problem solver. I think that's what you call it, add, but I think you're just a problem solver. I think you're really good at solving problems.
Speaker 2:I think I'm good at coping. I think I'm good at rationalizing shit.
Speaker 1:I got to say this like talking to you, for, like I think we're already almost an hour. It's fucking hard to look at the green, the whole time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, your eyes are crossing, dog. Your eyes are crossing on me, bro His whole mind is like nah, but it's. That's what it is. Dude, I'm freaking out. It's a. It's a spiral. Dude, I'm spiraling you right now.
Speaker 1:It's fucking crazy. I'm making it easier.
Speaker 2:It's mind control dog.
Speaker 1:No, but so we got into the why, the what you're going to do and and no, before we go. Like I think it was interesting, we talked about it before and it's a weird segue, but you do have a Tinder.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do have a Tinder. Yeah, Like is that?
Speaker 1:something you want to talk about. Yeah, like to me. I'd even come in over here and never even cross my mind.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like is this motherfucker on Tinder using faceless?
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100%, and, believe it or not, it works amazingly. It works amazingly. I don't like it's.
Speaker 1:Before you say it. So let me just say that you're on Tinder using the face mask, your profile is showing you without your face and it's all the faceless stuff on Tinder.
Speaker 2:There's no pictures of me that exists online. Like there's no pictures of me that exists, so it's only the ski mask photos. It's only so I. It's funny thing is I've had girls that I've dated. After them like knowing me personally, they're like I've tried Googling you and you don't exist. Like yeah, no, I'm just, I was just a guy like that just started doing this. Like I'm not. There's no paper trail of me, you know.
Speaker 2:And it started off where I. I thought it'd be cool. I don't know how to search for local talent. I thought it'd be cool if I can start like music videos or things that I want to do. Like how cool it would be if I have a chick who's an aspiring model and I have her like in a bikini with a ski mask on, I have the gold AK and she's like sitting on my lap. It's like maybe I can go on Tinder and like find that and I just posted all these things. And then we it turns out that it's like the ski mask is like the best afrodigie, like these. It's insane. And the only reason I know that is because I can compare it to my friends. Most of my friends are having a hard time on there and it's because, if you look at it, it's like I think the One of my friends actually made a girl Tinder.
Speaker 2:He made like a female Tinder just to see how bad the ratio is. It's like 800 to 1. It's insane. But these girls were swiping through and then they see this like psychotic dude in a ski mask with a flamethrower and with tattoos writing a Harley, and they're like wait a minute, what the hell is this? So I think they get curious and they swipe on me and then they start talking and they're like wait, you're actually intelligent and you're actually funny and you're actually you know what I mean. And then they use my Instagram. They see my Instagram and they're like, oh, and you make cool content and you you know. And it's just like I still haven't gotten a golden model with me. But yeah, the Tinder thing is extremely successful.
Speaker 1:I Take me your first time going on a Tinder date. Like what's going through your head? Like do I wear the mask? Like do I not wear the mask?
Speaker 2:I have to be like as weird as the sounds. I have to kind of be, I have to be weary, because some I want to make sure when I'm like dating that some women just aren't. They just don't have a mask fetish Like that's cool. Don't get me wrong, you have a mask fetish. Go ahead Like that's cool. But I've had so many girls that are like, can you show up in the mask and can you fuck me in the mask? And I'm like I'm like like that's a. That's pretty equivalent to a dude asking a chick to paper bag. You know what I mean. Like just look at me first and see what you think. Like see what you think. You know I'm not going to put it on a mask around the corner and then drive to your house. That's fucking weird. Yeah, that's so odd. Like I'm already weird enough dawg.
Speaker 1:You've got more of us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm so weird dude this is how weird I am with women and they still love me. I don't get it. Yeah, I'm driving in a 87 Toyota MR2 and like, driving forward and the car had tried some, like the car had almost gotten stolen three times, so the ignition's completely destroyed, all the wires are hanging out. Super pretty girl on my passenger seat just picked her up from her house, driving, driving, driving. The key actually can come out of the ignition and because it's such an old key, it's rounded out. Because that's like the perfect ear, like the perfect tool to pick your ear with.
Speaker 2:And while I'm driving I just go kind of blank. I'm like kind of like, hmm, like this is a good time to like, like, almost subconsciously, I pulled this car key out of my ear, cleaned a huge earglob of earwax off, I wiped it on my shirt, pulled this one I fucking huge thing of earwax, wiped it on my shirt, put it right back in my car. And then I remember that she's in my car with me and I look and she's staring at me in horror and I do Straight up, was like I'm gonna take you home, like do we even get to the location? Turn around, took her home. She still hit me up. She was like it was okay, like no. I could not forget the way you were fucking looking at me. I was like grunting, like an old girl. I was like ugh.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no. She looked over as like pretty girl from the freaking middle upper middle class girls. Like what the fuck did I get myself into? So that's how I was with chicks. I'm like really don't. Like. After I think, after doing that so many times, I don't even care anymore. Like I'll clean my ear with a car key in front of a girl now, like I think they like that. I think they like the transparency, maybe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's that you're you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just don't care.
Speaker 1:You're like you're okay with being you. It's weird because you're wearing a mask, you're not showing yourself, so it doesn't come off that you're comfortable with being you. But we're in a world now where, the shit, you can't do that because it's really gonna fucking fuck up your money, and I think that's the one reason why you can't do it. You can't fucking take out the mask and do all the shit that you're doing.
Speaker 2:You can't. Yeah, I've had so many like cancel culture campaigns against me, so much campaigns try to get me. And it's like what are you gonna do? What do you don't know who I am, you don't know where I'm at. You don't know my name, you don't know anything. Even if they were somehow to get a letter to the place that I work at, we would laugh. It would be funny, like if they wrote some like we're never gonna buy from you again, we would just laugh at it.
Speaker 2:So another that is to add on to the faceless thing that's one of the biggest beauties of it is I'm untouchable, I'm absolutely untouchable. Like there's no doxing, that's gonna happen. Like I don't, I'm not really registered anywhere. I don't know if you want to keep this in, but I haven't paid taxes in five years. But I really haven't Five years. Dude, I'm going on. I'm very close to six. I'm like a few months away from six. So it's all under the table.
Speaker 2:The government thinks I'm homeless. They think I'm a homeless person, but you've seen the way I live. I'm not I know where near from that. You know I'm not benefiting off the government's dime. I just like leave me alone.
Speaker 2:When the COVID checks came out, I called them. I was like how do I return this? And yeah, I probably should have donated it. But they were like you can't. I was like I don't want this shit. And they're like, well, you're basically homeless. And then, like you might have them, like no, I'm fucking on it. But you know, just because I'm unregistered, I'm undocumented, they're like you have to have it. And I'm like I can't fucking refund this, like I can go charge back, like I don't want it, because people were fronting that shit, you know, and I didn't want it. But I just took it and I was like, okay, I'll put that in savings, I guess. And they forced us into freaking communism there, like, but yeah, that's. You know, there's no cancellation that can really happen of me. And even if there was, I would own that shit for real.
Speaker 1:I think cancellation is a fear. I think, like talking to you right now, like I think I think cancellation is a fear that pretty cruder.
Speaker 2:It's a big man.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, I think people doing that, people like freaking out and wanting to care for you, I think that's their own fear. Oh yeah, I'm thinking that the world has this, there's this, there's this justice where everything's going to be fixed and it's not like you just said. You haven't paid taxes in six, almost six years, and it's like there's a lot of shit going down that's so fucking corrupt, that's you're very minuscule to what's actually happening in this world. That's true.
Speaker 2:That is true. Yeah, that's kind of my biggest like. Not worry about it is when I tell a normal person these things to like how, how are you doing? Now? I'm like dude, they'll give a fuck about me. Yeah, don't care about me, dude. They care about the people who are like making the big bucks and you know they care about the people. I know they, they they like to fuck over the small guy. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:But I'm I'm just a small percentage of the people who are using the COVID payments. I knew a guy who used the COVID payments and bought a boat. He got like a $12,000 COVID payment and bought a boat. I was like, hey, buddy, you don't have a truck or a trailer, what the fuck are you going to do with your boat? He stored it at the lake for a year and then had to sell it for half of what he got for because he spent all of his money on all the rest of his money on storage. And Pete, there's, that's who they give a shit about, those dumbasses that are doing stuff like that, like guys like me probably going to come after me someday, but like I'm, I'm just a small, small dot, small blip on the map, especially because I don't take advantage. I'm just like leave me the fuck alone. I'll leave you guys alone, leave me alone, I'm going to go do my own thing. You know what I mean? That's fucking dope. I don't know man.
Speaker 1:This is fucking. For me, as a just a human being, doing this like has been a fucking experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like this shit is to me, like because I I'm all about like getting perspective on the world, like I have no, like I'm like going into this, I'm like, fuck, how do I have an opinion when I've only been to San Jose and Los Vaneos? Like I, I at 33, I don't have an opinion. I need to. I tell myself like by the time I'm 40, then I'll have an opinion, then I'll know if, if faceless man, maybe that guy was a really good guy or maybe that guy was fucking dirtbag.
Speaker 2:Like I don't know.
Speaker 1:And from right now I'm like fucking faceless.
Speaker 2:faceless is dope it was fucking sick, yeah, but I said that when I was 15, I'm like I can't wait until I'm 25 to have an opinion, and at 25, I can't wait until I'm 30 to have an opinion. And you know what I mean. I think it's subjective, I think you're like things like this is what gives you perspective. I don't think you really need to travel to get the perspective, but meeting the people and you know what I mean Like I guess that's traveling to some people, but not in the way that it's said in Instagram nowadays, where people get off the plane, take a picture of the beach, then go to Falcón, just to say they can, they can do it. You know, you traveled to the Brigadoons, the nowhere, like you traveled to area 51 dog.
Speaker 2:You traveled to Roswell to get some perspective, and you know this isn't Roswell, New Mexico, but this is might as well be, we might as well be.
Speaker 1:I was in a video game when I rolled up I was like what we're like, what Strangers and freaks.
Speaker 2:Like we're riding a freaking little pit bike up a mountain. You know, I'm like it's. That's this place you came out, came out here, perspective. You didn't go to fucking. You're not on. You're not some fucking 25 year old chick getting fucked on a boat and have a sue A perspective. You know what I mean, Like you're actually doing it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's fucking dope man and I think you're you're onto something. I I like I said when we talked before, I want to come back eventually, maybe a year down the road or something, and see where you're at and let's go do some cool shit right now. And anything you want to say before we wrap it up?
Speaker 2:Not much. Man Just watch my, watch my podcast, that's it. How do people get the stories?
Speaker 1:How do people watch all that shit?
Speaker 2:My YouTube currently is under the moniker scumlord skvm L O R D that's that's the name on there, just cause faceless was taken. But that's where I'm posting everything currently and I just want to be able to build that up and get people watching this stuff, cause it's it's just something, in my opinion, that's not being done. I don't even know if it has been done, but this is a weird twist on that for sure.
Speaker 1:So and this I think it's fucking cool and everybody at the bar that I work at, they all fucking listen and they think it's cool.
Speaker 2:That's really cool. Diego's a hoe ass bitch. Diego's a hoe, Yo Diego, you're a fucking hoe. Fuck you Diego.
Speaker 1:Fuck you. Yeah, that's cool, but thank you for doing this man. We're going to go do some cool shit. Catch him. Catches YouTube. You don't have it on audio yet. No.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I want to diversify. I want to kind of just like get everybody at one spot and then try to move to another spot. That might not work out the best, but I noticed it's like I don't want a hundred viewers on Apple, a hundred viewers on Spotify. I want everyone to go to one location right now. That's all I want you know. So just YouTube, youtube and Instagram. That is just faceless.
Speaker 1:So this Thank you for listening. Thank you for watching. There's going to be more content, more traveling content. I'm going to be traveling throughout America finding different guests. Faceless was the first guest out of all of them. There's more content to come. If you guys are interested in watching, if you guys want that content, click subscribe to the channel. I'm going to grow this channel as big as possible to get these stories out there. And if you want to see my two days I spent with faceless, go ahead and click the next video. Click that video. I think it's somewhere One of those. It's going to be coming out. Should be coming out then, like two days after this comes out. So if it's not there yet, my bad, but it's one of these videos. But thank you guys for watching. Subscribe guys, share it with a friend. I love you guys. Hope you guys enjoyed Peace.