The Hassle of Hair
The Hassle of Hair
Reality vs Virtual: The 90s Tech Bubble and Online Lives
Are you ready to journey back to the wild ride of the 90s tech bubble and its devastating aftermath, the dot-com crash? We reminisce about the titanic rise and fall of companies like pets.com and webvan, and analyze how giants like Amazon and Cisco Systems weathered the storm. We'll talk about how this era continues to shape today's digital world, and how these experiences have affected our relationships and interactions online. Strap in as we traverse this exciting period of tech history.
But we're not stopping there. We also get real about our increasing addiction to our digital lives. We'll talk about how the power of online opinions can shape our connections, how our digital persona can be far removed from reality, and the trend of embellishing accomplishments online. We'll also share some personal anecdotes and experiences, helping us understand the truth behind the online façades. So tune in for a thought-provoking conversation about the realities and illusions of the digital world.
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Speaker 2:I could see it recording though.
Speaker 1:No, I know, but one time I went to go do a podcast with somebody.
Speaker 2:Uh huh.
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Speaker 2:You know, I could do that for the photo booth too, right?
Speaker 1:What do you mean?
Speaker 2:I could do a remote for the photo booth and do the prints and the pictures instead of me looking at the screen. You know how when I start it, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1:You need Wi-Fi, wouldn't that just be Bluetooth?
Speaker 2:No, I need Wi-Bla. That's a Microsoft computer.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And mine's Apple.
Speaker 1:What does that mean? Bluetooth, bluetooth.
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Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:It doesn't work. I already tried it.
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Speaker 1:No, it's crazy because we were FedEx drivers during the time when everything was booming right, when you had Bluetooth, nvidia, apple, nvidia, uh-huh, like all these things were really.
Speaker 2:Tech companies are on there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you remember not that many years before we started FedEx, which was 2012. Not that many years before that.
Speaker 2:Remember the months, I wouldn't even say 2012. I would just say 2013, because we literally started 12, 12, 12.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It wasn't even a whole year that we worked there.
Speaker 1:And then before that was when all the websites not the websites, but the website boom, whatever it's called. Then they have a like everything fell off. Like what's it called? What do you mean? There was a time when we delivered in the Silicon Valley. It all fell apart.
Speaker 2:It fell apart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, remember, all those buildings were empty. And we delivered in Santa Clara and right now it's booming. There's a bunch of tech places left because of the Silicon Valley. But there was a time when the website bubble just bursted.
Speaker 2:Website. I have no idea what you're talking about, to be honest.
Speaker 1:I'm just eating it. Bubble bursted, that's what I'll put. Internet bubble bursted.
Speaker 2:What the fuck.
Speaker 1:You don't remember then talking about how there used to be just empty buildings.
Speaker 2:Well, I know there's some empty buildings, but I have no idea what the fuck you mean about the internet bubble bursting.
Speaker 1:OK, the dot-com bubble.
Speaker 2:Still don't know what that is.
Speaker 1:OK, that's what I'm telling you. I'm going to tell you right now. I just looked it up. It says the dot-com bubble was a stock market bubble in the late 1990s. The period conceded. Coincidently.
Speaker 2:Dude, you weren't even. You were what like 10? In the late 1990s you were 10? Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1:Conceded with massive growth in the internet adoption, A proliferation fuck big words, let's go, Jesse, Come on, you got this Proliferation of available venture capital and the rapid growth of valuations in the new dot-com startups. So between 1995 and its peak in March 2000, investments in NASDAQ composite stock market index rose. That stuff I just don't understand. Rows 800%. Oh, there we go. Index rose 800%, only to fall to 740 from its peak by October 2002, giving up all its gains during the bubble. Now, here we go, what I'm talking about. So it's past 2002.
Speaker 1:During the dot-com crash, many online shopping companies, notably petscom, Webvan, boomboocom, as well as several communication companies such as worldcom, North Point Communications and Global Crossing, failed and shut down. Others like lastminutecom, np3.com, People Sound, survived the burst but were acquired. Larger companies like Amazon and Cisco Systems lost large portions of their market capitalizations, with Cisco losing 80% of its stock value. 80% is basically the whole fucking business. You don't remember this? No, I don't. So it says nearing the turn of the 2000,. Spending on technology was full of tile as companies prepared for year 2000 problem, there were concerns that the computer systems would have trouble changing their clock and calendar. Dude, that's way too much info.
Speaker 2:But that was like the white 2K, so what's your question then?
Speaker 1:It's not really a question, I'm just remembering that time. Do you remember when the internet just it seemed like the internet wasn't a money thing? Now, dude, you got a married couple in their house making money off of the internet.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You go. When I was in middle school, 2002, 2013, the internet was like oh that's. It was like it wasn't a thing because it all failed, right? Do you remember how the Beanie Babies were like a huge?
Speaker 2:thing yes, yes, right, and they just.
Speaker 1:They crashed on the dot com. Crash too.
Speaker 2:Is it because they weren't able to sell them online?
Speaker 1:They weren't able to sell them online. No, I think, just because they just ran its peak with the Beanie Babies.
Speaker 2:Like anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's like well, that's why I was reading, because I was trying to figure out why it bursted right, but I think they just moved too fast, like everybody was buying all these, everybody was moving into these, buying all these dot coms. These buildings too. All those buildings were filled in Santa Clara. If you've never been to Santa Clara, Santa Clara is like half city and then the other half is like all technology buildings. There's literally campuses full of servers for data, for like Amazon or these game companies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But like it's, you see them all over the place. If you drive all over the United States, you don't see places like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I guess different cities are known for different things. So like if you go in the country they're known more for like farming and shit. So they're not gonna have like a big old technology thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was just crazy, right.
Speaker 2:Well, we need to help sell Eva's squish mallows so that they don't the market for those don't crash.
Speaker 1:That was insane too, like when we were doing it Cause. So who had brought it up?
Speaker 2:Brought what the squish mallows your cousin did.
Speaker 1:Oh so.
Speaker 2:Saying that he purchased one for his fiancee. That was like $100 or something.
Speaker 1:So squish mallows, are these like these beanie the beanie, so like they're like these little plush things? But she has these small ones and then she has these huge ones and I didn't know how much she had. So like my cousin was talking about how his girlfriend or his fiancee has a lot of squishy mallows.
Speaker 2:Squish mallows.
Speaker 1:Squish mallows no-transcript, and I was like, oh, eva has some of those and I knew she had some, and then Raquel started throwing them downstairs and it was a shit load.
Speaker 2:They were in garbage bags.
Speaker 1:Oh my god damn. But then I started looking up how much they are. Holy shit, like if we sell them all, we'll get like a 400% return. Yeah, like some of them she bought for like $5. And you would get like $45 for them, $40, $50. And I'm like, holy crap, like that's her tuition.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I just thought it was funny, but it did get me thinking about like beanie babies and how big they were. I didn't have them. I don't think my mom got them.
Speaker 2:I think I might have had one, but it could have been one that was like happened to be like my birth month, birth month or birth month, or, you know, birthday, the same one, yeah, other than that, I don't think I really had. I don't think I had like a collection of them or anything.
Speaker 1:I'm not really a collector.
Speaker 2:Oh, like precious moments. You know what precious moments are.
Speaker 1:Hallmark.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hallmark, those little dolls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, you had those.
Speaker 2:I didn't have those, but those were also a big hit too.
Speaker 1:My brother or my brother? Yeah, my brother had Barbies.
Speaker 2:Your brother had precious moments.
Speaker 1:My sister had a shitload of Barbies Did she. Like a shitload of Barbies, like the collector edition ones still in the boxes. I wonder what my dad did with those. I remember the precious moments, though, but I remember. I wonder what my dad did with my sister's Barbies.
Speaker 2:He probably kept them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's crazy because my sister was like super, super, like they gave her everything, like you going to me and my brother's room it was like our football equipment, our like just clothes we had to. We shared a room and my sister had like a bunk bed underneath, was a little like play area underneath her bunk bed and then like she had a bunch of stuff Like it looked like a freaking fantasy land in her room. Yeah well, she was the only girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know that was crazy so, but it was just I don't know, like it's crazy how things just the websites go up and not websites, but things just go up and down and up and down, and up and down. I wonder if these podcast things are going to die out, right, do you think?
Speaker 2:so.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I feel like I feel like Howard Stern was doing podcasts before podcasts for podcasts Because they would. He would have a live show and then broadcast like just the audio.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's.
Speaker 2:But it wasn't a podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the first ones were the Howard Stern. It was a.
Speaker 2:Howard.
Speaker 1:Stern show Kimmel, not Kimmel. Adam Carolla, what's his name? Tom Green, remember Tom Green and Freddie Got Fingered.
Speaker 2:Yes, Backwards man, backwards man.
Speaker 1:Backwards man, backwards man, backwards man, backwards. Like most of my childhood is off of those movies. They don't even show those kind of movies anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Wonder why Look at the shit that they say and do when they're Well. What's wrong with that? People are too sensitive nowadays.
Speaker 1:You think they're too sensitive. I don't think they're too sensitive.
Speaker 2:I feel like people have opinion about everything. People are too sensitive. You do something, somebody doesn't like it, you get called out you're this, you're that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're talking about online. But when I look around my neighborhood, when I look around the places I go nobody's sensitive like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, online. That's what I'm saying. You're talking about online. I'm saying yes, online.
Speaker 1:I don't think the online opinion matters, like when you're able to put your opinion out there on the shitter. That shouldn't be an opinion. I'm just saying like it's just. It's like my friend, he messaged me videos and I was like I was like get off the internet, you're bored, or just get off the internet, something like that and it just it's so crazy, like we're so addicted to these things and not me included.
Speaker 2:Like these.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so addicted to them. It's like you're always, you're always on it, even if you're working. Like that's how people work now. Most of the time, too, is from a laptop, from a phone.
Speaker 2:Well, I know, I use my phone, I use the iPad, I use the computer.
Speaker 1:But I think people aren't getting more open about just. I think I seen a commercial that Instagram is like is start slow or start small. And it shows people meeting. It shows these two girls meeting each other, then going out for drinks.
Speaker 2:Well, I know you're talking about yeah.
Speaker 1:I think they're trying to go towards Instagram not being this popularity contest and being this connection.
Speaker 2:Being some people. It's like easier when you meet people. Yeah, okay, like yeah, I see the commercial, it's her fine. Looking at that girl's page and then going and be like oh hey, I seen you from social media. Yeah, and then from there they have like a friendship.
Speaker 1:Do you know how many I've been doing that since the fucking pandemic? You know how many people I met? A lot, a lot, a lot. You know how many fucking relationships I have because of the fucking internet? It's crazy, like even like thinking of of tall Diego, the one, the part of the Cayucas, 4.
Speaker 2:Tall Diego and security Diego, and but you knew Diego before the podcast. You knew him from the gym, so it's not like you met him because of the podcast.
Speaker 1:Cayucas 4 Diego, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And yeah, Diego from security. Yes, you did meet him. Did you meet him before, though?
Speaker 1:at the gym. I knew of him a few times.
Speaker 2:And then you reached out and then he said okay, he got along, he jumped on this crazy boat idea of yours.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes and like.
Speaker 2:Most of your good friends. You met your podcast though. Yeah, gloria, well, coach Jose. Coach Jose, yeah, that's what I said Gloria, coach, jose Diego, who else? It's like I'm missing somebody.
Speaker 1:Huh Coach Jose.
Speaker 2:Gloria.
Speaker 1:Diego, diego, gloria, sorry, ej, I knew him from the gym, but then we parted, then we podcasted and then we just kept on going from there, like it's just from the internet. Like I sat down and hung out with the Pasta209 owner yeah, I would have been eating there no matter what, oh my God. But I met him through the internet, right Like yeah, and you podcasted with him.
Speaker 1:And I podcasted with him. Yes, and that's why when people are like, oh, I want to start a podcast, I want to do this, I want to do that, like don't do it to. You realize like slowly things will happen, but do it to meet people, do it to.
Speaker 2:Why do you think people want to do it though?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's a tuxedo.
Speaker 1:I like stories. That's what I did it Like. I literally like stories.
Speaker 2:But how much of the stories are really stories and not like truth or facts? You know what I mean Like that's the hard part.
Speaker 1:That's not for me to decide.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like I want to let people have a voice and if people listen and they decide like, oh, this guy's full of shit.
Speaker 2:Like I'm not going to say names, but I know like we've done a few podcasts and then, like you post and people reach out, I'm like, oh, so and so is full of shit, they're liars, they're this, they're that. Oh yeah, tell me more. Yeah, I'll just say it. You know what I mean? I'll just say it. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:No, this was fucking crazy.
Speaker 2:No, don't. So I'll just say no, you don't need to say anything. Just leave it as the way we're saying it.
Speaker 1:No, because he told me some crazy shit, oh my God. So this guy during the pandemic came into my house and he said he was a Muay Thai fighter.
Speaker 2:He went to Thailand and fought once and he Did they actually go to Thailand, though, or?
Speaker 1:no, they did. Okay, okay so yeah, he fought right, okay, but he's like, he told me this wild shit. Dude, he told me this wild shit. He said he was that he had a contract with one championship and that before. Like this is fucking crazy to me. I don't realize how people lie like this.
Speaker 2:Can I say the service part? Can I say the service part?
Speaker 1:Hold on, hold on and so like. So he comes into my house right and I'm watching him online talking his saying his story. All I heard was him going to Thailand and fighting in Thailand. I didn't need anything else. And then like, but he started adding all this other shit, like I don't know why, and he said that he went to Thailand and he's trying to save the kids over there, which I didn't find out if it was bullshit or not, but because he said a lot of other bullshit, I take that as bullshit.
Speaker 2:No, but you didn't think it was bullshit.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:At first, at first, okay, you believed it.
Speaker 1:Yes, but then he walked into my house and he says that he has a one championship contract.
Speaker 2:Maybe he did.
Speaker 1:No, he didn't. He literally had like two Muay Thai fights.
Speaker 2:Maybe he did have a contract, maybe they did reach out. No, Bullshit.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, no, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:You're black. You're giving yourself high blood pressure right now.
Speaker 1:And then like, and then he told me that that before he, before I messaged him, joe Rogan had told him that he wants to be on his. Joe Rogan wants him on his podcast. Okay, and when he told me that I was like bro.
Speaker 2:It could have been believable. You know why? Because you have said you okay, you had Chris Leibin on your podcast. Regardless, it was for like 15 minutes you had him on there. That sounds like a crazy story to even fucking say hey guys, I had Chris Leibin on my podcast, but I had who could believe that? If no one looked on YouTube and actually was like okay, is this guy telling the truth or not, who would believe that? Who would believe that?
Speaker 1:Nobody, it's not that hard. All you got to do is just reach out to people.
Speaker 2:But but he could have been on Joe Rogan, joe Rogan could have reached out.
Speaker 1:Bullshit no.
Speaker 2:Okay. I'm trying to just give the benefit of the doubt. I'm trying to be the just trying to throw out some other stuff.
Speaker 1:No, but I had people hit me up that he was full of shit and like his stories didn't.
Speaker 2:His stories didn't go like they were adding up or adding up, and it just like. Can I say the service part now.
Speaker 1:What service?
Speaker 2:And he said he was a great brain.
Speaker 1:Oh man, I forgot about that.
Speaker 2:And then he said he was a. He said he was a green beret.
Speaker 1:That was wild.
Speaker 2:Yeah that was pretty wild, that was wild oh dare you try to say it after I just said? Let me say it.
Speaker 1:And I had dude. That was insane, you guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like if it was, if I know what I know now, like how I deal with situations like I'm, like I would have called him out in his bullshit.
Speaker 2:I don't think you would have. Yeah, I really don't, because you don't like confrontation. I would have said something yeah, I would have, like really Come on, that was fucking wild. You don't really like confrontation, babe. Yeah, like at all.
Speaker 1:It's not that I don't like confrontation, because, like lately, I've been getting into confrontations and holding my ground.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, I feel like once you turned 33, you just grew up a little bit more.
Speaker 1:I honestly think it's from bouncing though.
Speaker 2:Why you don't really got to deal with.
Speaker 1:You realize that you deal with drunk people. You like I was in this La La Land where, like everybody doesn't like, no one would lie like that. You mean you were in a bubble. That's unbelievable. Like who would lie that bad.
Speaker 2:He must have had a really good childhood, because I mean kids with the imagination like that. They just make up stories for days.
Speaker 1:But I had someone tell me I had, I had. I was working at the bar and someone came up and he's all dude, you don't know who I am, I'm a UFC fighter and there was a Was he really.
Speaker 1:There was a professional fighter right next to me and Was he a really UFC fighter. And we both look at each other and we're like we mean the other security guy who's a professional UFC fighter. I've got who's a professional fighter, not UFC fighter, he's a professional fighter. Me and him look at each other like Was the other guy really a UFC fighter? Fuck, no, he did.
Speaker 2:I feel like if you're like, I feel like the people that say that you're this or you're that are really not this or that. Like I, like, I don't know. That's just like someone saying oh, I'm hella gangster. If you're gangster, you don't got to say you're gangster.
Speaker 1:But he even he only did like, like, basically a smoker boxing smoker Was it a UFC it was a sparring boxing Like I don't have no problem with that.
Speaker 2:Was it a UFC?
Speaker 1:I'm gonna say if you're a UFC fighter and only have a fucking boxing sparring, you should have said me too, dude, dude. I'm gonna say, if you're a UFC fighter and only have a, fucking boxing, sparring.
Speaker 2:You should have said that. You would have been like, oh really, man, you could have said it oh really, when did you?
Speaker 1:Well, I never knew people fucking lie like this. People lie babe. And then like but then the bullshit meter, my bullshit meter, starts like, starts getting bigger and bigger Right. Like I mean, my mean being able to like, see bullshit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, and it's still. Sometimes I get fucking gullible. But fuck, dude, like it's crazy how people are able to lie like that to impress people. It's fucking wild. It's like, dude, just be yourself. You don't have to fucking impress. Like who's gonna impress? Like who the fuck are you trying to impress?
Speaker 2:I mean, you're not gonna sleep with them, are you? No but like? But if?
Speaker 1:you're trying to live, if you're trying to say that that's your life, then go fucking do it.
Speaker 2:You know like don't talk about it, be about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, Like even because I guess I guess we're just doing shit Like even when I was 28 and I was like oh, I just want to go be a fighter. I'm like fuck it, I'll go be a fighter.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I didn't talk about it. I just want to go fucking do it Right and then like then the podcast.
Speaker 2:I mean, when you were a fighter, they actually talked about it all the time, like, hey guys, I'm a fighter.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't do that. Yeah, you did. I didn't go fucking telling people, I'm a fucking fighter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she did no bullsh-. Yeah, you did Ask anybody that knows you.
Speaker 1:Oh, ask me, there's no way. I went to go. I walked around. I'm a fighter, I'm a fighter.
Speaker 2:You did, you did, I did, I did.
Speaker 2:But even like the podcast shit, like I'm just like doing it, you know what kind of hurts me is like so I'm in these groups on Facebook for the photo booth and a lot of stuff that I like. The photo booth when I first started out is a lot of. It was trial and error, like I I learned on my own. You know, like if I didn't really know something I would look on YouTube and stuff like that, but everything else I kind of learned on my own. And then these groups you get these people that just start out and they know nothing.
Speaker 1:They know nothing.
Speaker 2:They know nothing at all. And then they want everybody to kind of hand it to them, like how do I do this, how do I do that? And I want to be like look, I'm sorry you're stuck, but figure it out. You know, like, if it's like most of the stuff, I'm like I'll help them out. If it's something like, okay, you know, but the moment you start helping them out, they want to help you, they want more and more and more. They just want, they don't, they're not offering anything. I feel like that's kind of like a fucked up move. I feel like if you don't really know, then don't get into it. That's just how I feel.
Speaker 1:I don't like most but the.
Speaker 2:I feel like, but it's a lot of people that that start out and they don't know anything, though they know nothing of the photo booth.
Speaker 1:You don't even know nothing, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I didn't, but I learned it on my own. There wasn't anybody for me to go to, but all those people get weeded out. Yeah. Right, like all those things get weeded out, like I, I, I like you, can't tell me that I didn't do any of my research for everything the photo booths, the, the templates, the software, the lighting, the camera.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it it. All those people get weeded out, Like you know how many times like people have have pitched me the pipe dream. Like they have pitched me like, oh, do this and do this. Like you can make money off of of doing videos for for companies and all that stuff, and or you could do the do social media. It's like I get what you're saying, I get I can make money off of that, but then that's not what I want to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you know what I mean. That's not what I want to do. Like you, you don't know what I want to do, right, and they people. They look at me when I tell them. No, they just look at me like what, like?
Speaker 2:yeah, Like okay, so, so so somebody in it for the money. Yes, you motherfucking, aren't it for the money?
Speaker 1:but I want to make money off of what I'm doing. I don't want to do, I don't want to work for somebody else. Yeah, I want to have creativity Like I. This is my creation.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So there was somebody that reached out and they just posted like oh, can somebody help me with? I have two. I have two events, I think, once a baby shower, one something else. Can somebody help me with templates? And I reached out. I'm like what do you need help with? And then they're like with templates I go okay, well, do you know, like, what layout they want, what size they want? Like you first got to figure out the size they want, the colors they want, like what are you offering?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's like I'm not going to do it for you. I'll help you, but then you get people that are like oh, can you do templates for me? It's like I could for $10. It's like it literally takes a lot of time and money and not time and money, not money, not time, and literally takes a lot of time and effort for me to do those.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like it's crazy because, like I'm like, those people that waste your time, they get weeded out. You kind of just got to ignore them. And that's what I had to deal with is, like, I doubt, with a lot of people wasting my time because I'm just hungry, like I'm hungry and willing to listen to anybody. You know, I'm literally like, but I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, but then you realize, like not to listen to everybody.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, and and like I always tell you, there is no right way, there is no wrong way, it's just what works for you.
Speaker 1:You know what I hate. You know what I fucking hate is something about me is people. They come up to me and they go, they go. Oh, you have that podcast right and I don't mind that. That's cool.
Speaker 2:Are you sure it's not the ones?
Speaker 1:I say like, oh, my God, your wife's so funny. Yeah, that's cool. And then this is like people come up to me and say, oh, you have that podcast right, I go, yeah, they go. Oh, I haven't listened to it yet.
Speaker 1:So how the fuck did I know you had a podcast and I was like why the fuck would you tell me that I don't even fuck? Like you know what I mean. Like I don't know if it's sometimes it feels like it's just a jab at me, why I don't know, just like I'm not hurt by it, but it's like I'm like I walk away like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:So what I get a lot and there's nothing wrong with it is oh, there are things that this. What really pissed me off is oh, you're Jesse's wife. I'm like no, jesse's my husband Like, yeah, I'm Jesse's wife, but Jesse's wife has a name. You know, like that kind of just bugs me because it's like I don't want to be defined because of you.
Speaker 2:And then like but then I also get people that come through, drive through and they're like, oh, you and your husband do that podcast. You guys are funny, which I don't mind at all. Which is I'm like, yeah, sometimes I want to be like who does a podcast? Like you know, they're all have the twin. I don't have a twin, but they don't know that. I mean now they might.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's, it's. It's funny Like we've been doing this for a while.
Speaker 2:Man, we just saw like a bunch of complainers right now.
Speaker 1:It's complain Wednesday. Today's Wednesday. Oh shit, okay Right. Today's Wednesday. Complainer Wednesday.
Speaker 2:We actually, we actually got to do two events on one day.
Speaker 1:You did two events.
Speaker 2:I did, but I didn't say me, but we did actually have our business, actually did have two events for one day, and our daughter's friend. Yes, our daughter's very good friend.
Speaker 1:Our daughter's friend. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you, you know who you are, but she she ran one of them for us. I gave her the easiest job.
Speaker 1:And yeah, you did two events. Yeah, cause, like um, I would have helped her, but then my uncle passed away. My uncle was 53. This is from my uncle, from my mom's side, and, yeah, he died of what do you got to say like that Way?
Speaker 2:why do people say died passed?
Speaker 1:away. What the fuck this passed away means it just sounds nicer. Passed away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it just sounds nicer than my uncle died.
Speaker 1:He did.
Speaker 2:I don't say it like that, it just sounds bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he died, he was a. He was a big part of my childhood, right like he. He used to take like my parents worked a lot and he used to take me in my brother places and and he's a big influence on me from music because he's the one that used to take me to street like records, rasputin, record Rasputin where they saw CDs and records and and he just let us run around and go look for CDs and I did that into my 20s. Oh, I used to go to the street light and Rasputin's and go look at CDs and movies and and it was because of him. You know, like he he never really had a family, he was. He was a gay, gay man, is that?
Speaker 2:he never had a say the best way without laughing.
Speaker 1:Any kids of his own yeah, he was gay and I People have kids, I know, but I just I just keep on laughing because I just hear him like this. I don't know that's right, I don't know, but but he, he, he was a big influence on me for music. He took me to go see Chris Cornell Mm-hmm we would. He would take us to go eat and talk about the new music that was coming out, like he was a big Madonna fan.
Speaker 1:Yes he was a big grunge fan. He's the one that made me realize that that Nirvana wasn't the best grunge, and that's what people think is Nirvana's the best grunge or not. You have Temple of a dog. They kind of started it all and that was Chris Cornell and his and his first group. They're the ones that sing that song. I'm going hungry. I'm hungry, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, thank God, you're a podcaster and not a singer and that was all because of my uncle.
Speaker 1:He he lived a very simple life. The end of his road it it got kind of kind of out of control because of his health but but I got to see him pass away, all right, and that was. That was what happened. Like, how did that happen? Like, how did that?
Speaker 2:like I literally end up sick or no.
Speaker 1:I was literally at home.
Speaker 2:We were home. So, Sunday I came home from work I seen that he was in the hospital. We talked about it a little bit. Honestly, I, to be honest, I didn't think it was anything serious, just because I knew. I didn't think it was anything Serious to the point of thinking your uncle was gonna pass away.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I just thought he was sick. He went to the hospital and Then we get a call from your aunt, who's in states away and letting us know what was happening. And then we're getting ready for what we're getting for a bed or something. Getting ready for bed, and it was already 11, something almost midnight, and then your aunt called us and and said that your uncle wasn't gonna make it, that the hospital said somebody should be there with him if he passes and. And everybody kind of already had left the hospital.
Speaker 2:We're on their way home and I was the closest, yeah, so Jesse drove out there to us To what like a 30 minute drive. 40 minute drive, yeah I.
Speaker 1:Didn't, I didn't want to go. I didn't want to go because, like I still deal with shit, like from my mom, seeing her die, like, like I didn't want to relive it. It's not that I deal with it still, it's like I didn't want to relive it. I know what that is. Yeah you know, and it sucks.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It fucking sucks. So I didn't. I didn't want to go. So I I said, fuck it, I'll go. I went to go put gas. I came back and I said I don't think my wife should go, I think this should be a me thing.
Speaker 2:And and Even though I don't think I, would have been able to go in there, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then so I went and, yeah, I, I won't get into it too much, but I seen, I See my grant of my, I see my uncle, you know, pass away. And that that Was a quick reminder and it came out of nowhere. It was a quick reminder of what, how fragile we are. You know how fragile we are and and how we take, how we take things for granted, right, because my, like my uncle didn't, my uncle didn't live the most motivated life. I would say like he wasn't motivated, like he wasn't. But so I didn't, I didn't, for some reason. Okay, I'll just tell the truth.
Speaker 1:First, I don't know why, I'm like trying to hold back. Like he, he didn't live a really motivated life and for some reason, I that he didn't go after things in his life Later on and I, for some reason, I thought like, oh well, he, he didn't show me that much, right. But then when I, when I was driving home, I realized he showed me everything. He, because of the things that he went through from being gay and the things that he went through just as a kid, like he showed me compassion. He, like I said, I told, I told my family that he was the first one to To really listen. Mm-hmm, everyone. My mom passed away and I was going through everything I was going through being this crazy kid. Everybody wanted to tell me what to do Right, you need to do this, you need to do that, you need it. Like everybody wanted to tell me what to do, especially men, right, and my uncle was the first one that I sat down with and he just would listen.
Speaker 1:Yeah like he would just listen and just maybe sometimes think I was crazy. But he wouldn't. He didn't judge you, he didn't judge me, nothing. He would just listen and he showed me compassion and that was probably he gave me a lot of compassion and that was probably he gave me a voice Right and that was probably one of the biggest things Someone has ever done for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah you know, and it's crazy, because here, that all this time I'm like oh, my uncle was not motivated, I was this, I was that, and you don't realize what they did for you, mm-hmm, and I wish I could go back and I could tell him that, you know, and and so like, after he passed. Like I'm, I'm trying to be more open with communication, I'm trying to To reach out to my family, I'm trying to talk to all of them, I'm trying to, I'm trying to answer phone calls and and and be there, you know, because I could. I had this thing in me where I could shut myself out. Like, since I left the gym, I Literally talked to like four people.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know like you probably talked to more people and I really shut myself out.
Speaker 2:Don't because I have co-workers.
Speaker 1:But you talk to your sisters like you well, that's it.
Speaker 2:that's like an everyday thing, though yeah, like Literally everyday thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah so. What I'm talking to your sister. Yeah then I don't dude. I wish I had that.
Speaker 2:You're gonna call you no you may have them call you, you can talk to them why I do.
Speaker 1:Well, you know it's crazy. I have this like short attention span and I've gotten better because I've had. I have friends now that don't let me fucking Hang up or or leave a conversation. Mm-hmm like I have a very short attention span. Okay like and it's hard, like I just get bored. I think I do you ever have this. I'll be talking on the phone and sometimes I just get bored. I'm like fuck some.
Speaker 2:Okay, to be honest, sometimes when you talk, I get bored.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:I'm like. Like I don't want to be mean, you know, but I'm just like, okay, I'll just say, and listen to what you're saying, or whatever you need to talk about, but it's most of time sometimes not most of the time I'm just like Change the fucking subject. Oh, you know what I mean I get stuck on things. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you repeat yourself too many times. I'm like I already heard this story. Because, I'm not trying to be mean and be like okay, dude.
Speaker 1:No, I Get stuck on things like I get stuck and I'm like over and over in my head.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Hmm, like what's the main thing I'm talking about right now? You're road trip Sponsorship sponsorship, the road trip it's all I think about. Yeah, you know, like that came through two weeks ago, I thought of an idea and like I haven't stopped. Yeah, you know, and I Don't know why my mind works like that. I just have some kind of a Short-attention span. It's just short, it's a short track, like it's.
Speaker 2:It's one sided, it's a one rope, like once you see something and you talk about it, it's that until you can get it off of your off of your fucking mind, or it's done.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's, it's pretty wild, like it's a bad thing and a good thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think it's, it's how I've I learned martial arts, so like in the small time that I did. And then, like I think about it too, like I'd look at, I look at other people that tried fighting, like that shit's hard, like it's hard to get a W. Yeah, okay, who you fight, it is so hard to get a W. And and I did it, just like I quit my job and said, oh fuck, I want to do this and that's how, like I mean, that was an only reason why you quit your job.
Speaker 1:No, but I mean like I did it After I quit my job and it was like yeah, I'm gonna do this yeah and I'm fucking crazy like that and like that's how I do everything, all right, and pretty much like this fucking road trip, like I Was like oh, this is how, this is how I'm gonna grow my podcast. Yeah, now I haven't stopped talking about it.
Speaker 2:Now I haven't stopped you haven't shut up about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now, I haven't stopped thinking about it and thinking of ways to get sponsorship, thinking of ways what I'm gonna do, how I'm gonna travel, like you know, I'm already thinking of the next one, like you know. And. But, like we, you're like that too. Like what? Like? Look at the photo booth.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You don't get one.
Speaker 2:I feel like your mind trumps my mind when it comes to conversations like that. I Feel like I listened to you a little bit more About your things that you want to do. Then when I try to talk to you about stuff that I'm interested in, I Fucking hate it. What I do no, what that?
Speaker 1:what you talked about, where I'm just overwhelming.
Speaker 2:I feel like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there be times when I'm like cocking you and I just stop like, so you want to say anything, I do and it's, it's.
Speaker 2:It's like I'm just a little honestly, my mind sometimes is just exhausted from you. That's just the nicest way. So because, like this trip that you're taking, it has been non-stop, non-stop.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah, so yeah but like do you think, if my mind wasn't like that, that it would happen? Yes you really think?
Speaker 2:so yes, I do.
Speaker 1:Like, yeah, we'll be talking, and I'm like, fuck dude, she is getting bored of my conversation.
Speaker 2:I'm a m. I was like talk to me something else. I don't stop thinking about life, I don't you're not moving the tags off for them, are you okay?
Speaker 1:I don't stop thinking about life. I don't stop thinking about, like, what it all means, like that's all you're.
Speaker 2:I feel like your main focus right now is just troubleshow, troubleshow, troubleshow, troubleshow. Sponsors, sponsors, sponsors. And I'm like, okay, I got to cook dinner. Okay, eva has this coming up. Okay, what am I gonna do here? Like my mind is going like with, I'm juggling hell of shit and you're just juggling one thing.
Speaker 1:No, you think that, but in my head. In my head I'm juggling. I'm juggling my health, okay, I'm juggling my marriage. I'm juggling making money.
Speaker 1:Okay like that's like, that's huge right. Like I, I'm juggling my friendships, being a father like I, when I think about like what, why I'm doing the travel show, it's like okay, now I got to start. Like I got to start doing because I felt like I was stagnant. I felt like like I Don't, I want to say it wasn't working, but it was like there has to be a better way to make sponsor, to get sponsors. There has to be a better way of growing this thing. Okay, and I always wanted to travel. So that's why, like, I was like, and then I just thought of ideas. But all this comes from like giving, like the money.
Speaker 2:Is this a high Like? You need this to feed your high.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't say I'm feeding my high because in my head, like the money I make off of this, it's gonna better your shit. You know, like that's all. I think it's not to make me feel better, it's like because this is fucking crazy, like this like this feeds you though. No, it does feed me like it feeds.
Speaker 2:You're like, yeah, like let's go that no, it does.
Speaker 1:It does feed me, but at the same time, it feeds me as as a man, saying like, oh, this is what I can do and this is how I could provide for it. Yeah you know, because it does, it does suck. Sorry but it does suck that, that Sometimes I feel like it's like fuck man, like like we both work part-time jobs and we both what nothing? I didn't say nothing babe, you want to go down that road?
Speaker 2:I did not say nothing.
Speaker 1:We.
Speaker 2:What I didn't say. No, I didn't say you gotta be open. I did not say nothing. Okay, one of us gets a debut to, the other does not.
Speaker 1:So Okay, that's getting, that's getting clock cropped out.
Speaker 2:Just believe it, I'll just go sensor it.
Speaker 1:Snip. But yeah, no, like, sometimes I feel like I'm like fuck dude, I wish I can do better. But then it's funny how, like I think that and then everybody around me tells you, jesse doing good, you're doing good, you're doing good. You tell me you're doing good and it's like like my cousin the other day put her hand on my back. She's like you gotta stop giving yourself a hard time. And I'm like fuck dude. I just think there's things that I want, things I want to get to, and I feel like I need to be like this so I can get to them, because that's the only way that I ever got successful at something is because I thought like this yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so so recording, yeah, thank you guys for listening.
Speaker 2:Sorry for the little rant. We've been off what couple weeks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, fuck, dude, we, we've been all over the place. We went to Kyukis. That was fucking cool, mm-hmm, that was. That was fucking cool. The beach house I couldn't think, my friend, enough that we did that. We did go and we got an experience of Beach House for 4th of July and it was one of the best 4th of July's we ever yeah, we got to.
Speaker 2:We normally do nothing for 4th of July Nothing. We stay home, we do nothing.
Speaker 1:And then we got to experience my friend getting married, getting engaged huh right, and that was cool experience, yeah, and and it the Kyukis was interesting. It was interesting because it's like it's like the city where everybody's on vacation Right, you don't live there, you just go on vacation there pretty cool. But yeah, I love you guys, we'll be back next week and I hope that you got something out of this. I don't know what, it was just talking and I love you guys. Have a great day.
Speaker 2:Have a good week.
Speaker 1:Don't forget to subscribe, subscribe, guys subscribe. Yeah, love you Peace.